My Results After 3 Weeks Promoting On Twitter + Reddit
As you know, my dream of building a fully-outsourced OnlyFans agency has officially been crushed.
Since about 3 weeks ago, I am doing all the work myself.
After DOZENS of partnerships with service providers who were supposed to either bring traffic, chat with fans (or both), in exchange for a percentage of the profits, I have finally given up.
I’ll get into the “killing blow” of my dream in a later section, but for now just understand that I am now doing all the work myself.
In this article, I am going to discuss the current challenges my agency is facing since I’ve personally taken on the entire workload for promoting my models.
Starting From (Almost) Scratch After Nearly 5 Months
Once I realized that my dream of building a fully-outsourced agency was doomed to fail, I knew that if I wanted to even have a CHANCE of success, I would have to do the work myself.
Fortunately (or so I thought), I wasn’t starting from scratch.
I still had a few hard-working, responsive, and reliable girls who had sent me content multiple times.
This “head start” comes with its own set of challenges. But we’ll get to those later.
Most of these girls came from my increasingly-agitated scouts, who had become more vocal about when I would actually provide a tangible result.
Having watched operator after operator work for a few days and then become unresponsive, they had reached the limit of their patience.
And so had I.
I told them that from now on, I would be taking over the accounts personally.
But when it came to start doing work, it hit me: I had never actually managed a girl myself.
I’m somewhat ashamed to admit this, but I had no idea what to do.
I had no idea how to write a bio, set up a welcome message, or even schedule a post.
Still, I knew that it was do-or-die time, so I rolled up my sleeves and went to work.
Fun fact: I am not the type of guy who enjoys learning from videos.
I find them boring, slow, and more time-consuming than skimming an article for the main points.
If I do decide to slog through a video, I’ll watch it on 2-3x speed so I can get the main point and move on.
But my favorite method of learning is through experience.
Aka, doing shit.
That said, since I was SO clueless, I figured that it couldn’t hurt to watch a few videos to learn the basics.
The first thing I needed to do was set up a profile. So I dug out Nathan Ashton’s course and started watching.
A few hours later, here’s what I’d settled:
- Post 100 pics
- Post 40 videos
- Get some likes
- Write a bio
- Launch the account
I know some of you are shaking your heads thinking, “Really? You didn’t know THAT?”
No, I didn’t.
Now look – these are not complex concepts. It’s not like I had trouble understanding them.
I was just never in a situation where I had to set up a bio on my own. I always had someone else do it for me.
And that’s what got me into this mess.
At this particular moment, my agency had 5 active girls that were sending me content with respectable regularity.
So I set up 5 accounts with content and a bio, scheduled some posts for the following week, and got ready to eat the biggest frog on my plate: generating traffic.
The more time I spend in this business, the more I realize that traffic is 90% of the game.
If you’ve mastered traffic, you will make money. If you have no traffic, then you won’t.
I used to think that getting models was the most improtant part of this business. But after seeing how easy it was to recruit girls, I changed my mind.
With the amount of model marketplaces that exist, you can buy a model for a couple hundred bucks – complete with a 14 day warranty in case she turns out to be unreliable.
But as far as I know, there is no “traffic marketplace” – although that seems like a damn good idea in case anyone feels like stealing it.
The only place I’d ever really gotten traction for models was on Reddit.
I’ve been a casual user of the site for years, so posting there felt somewhat natural.
That said, each subreddit has their own rules about posting.
- Some only allow verified posters
- Some require flair
- Some require accounts to have a minimum level of karma (post and/or comment), but these amounts are undisclosed
- Some require a certain account age
- Some require similarity between Reddit username and OnlyFans username
- Some ONLY allow original contnet
- Some DO NOT allow original content
Learning about each individual one takes time.
And remember, I have 5 models I need to do this for. Each with different physical characteristics.
The idea of posting to 5 separate model accounts 30 times a day – all in unique subreddits with their own rules – made me want to vomit.
My Passionate Love Affair With The Twitter Mother/Slave Method
During my resaerch, I found a thread on BHW with a guy who talked about doing the Mother / Slave method for Twitter.
His slaves were following 350 accounts per day and he was getting excellent traffic.
(I can’t find the thread now. I’ll post it later if I do.)
Twitter seemed like an attractive platform to me for a few reasons:
- They allow adult content
- Their spam filters are less strict than IG or Reddit
- I could use an automation tool
In a previous life, I used to use a tool similar to Jarvee for Instagram automation.
I knew I could still get access to this tool if I needed it, so I thought this Twitter strategy might be something I could pull off.
All I had to do was create the accounts, schedule some tweets, and dial in the parameters.
I started with 20 accounts for my main girl: a skinny Romanian beauty with poofy black hair who was very responsive and had already submitted lots of content.
There were a few reasons I chose her:
- She had been with me the longest
- She was the most consistent
- She was on OF, not Fansly (more on this later)
- She responded to my messages very quickly
I went to accsmarket, bought some aged Twitter accounts, and spent the next few hours setting them up on my VPS where I was running the tool.
Since I was using very low quality datacenter proxies, I decided to set the parameters equally low – 10-20 follows per day per account, set to increase by 10 follows per day until they hit 350.
If all went well, then in a month’s time I’d have 20 accounts following 7000 target accounts EACH per month – or 140,000 total.
From there, it was just a matter of adding more accounts.
And at first, everything actually went well.
I got about 30 (free) subs to my model’s account in the first day. I thought I was finally on my way.
But that’s when shit started to fall apart.
Some accounts got suspended, some got password reset requests (I didn’t have the OG email), and some got shadowbanned.
Looking back, I realize that it was likely a proxy issue – but I never tested this.
I also could have chosen the accounts I purchased more carefully, picking ones that came with the registered email.
And if I REALLY wanted to go the extra mile, I would have bought SIM cards for each of the accounts that I could have used to do SMS verifications.
But I didn’t.
I believe that if I had used mobile proxies, I wouldn’t have run into so many account issues.
But I got pretty far with datacenter proxies.
If I had the OG emails attached, then theoretically I could have reset the passwords for each of them and continued to let them run.
But the issue of the shadowbans kind of turned me off. Twitter will allow the account to tweet, but won’t show the tweets unless you navigate to that specific account’s page.
So if you’re running dozens or hundreds of accounts, you won’t know anything is wrong unless you check the stats on each one.
I could have just used the accounts to ONLY do follow/unfollow, but I figured that if that’s ALL the accounts did, Twitter would be more likely to flag them than if they also made a daily tweet.
And this is AFTER I set up campaigns of 200-300 pictures with unique rotating hashtags.
Still, the progress was good enough in the beginning that I decided to set up similar systems for the rest of my girls.
The accounts would deliver a few subs at first and then… nothing.
I still have accounts following ~100 or so accounts per day, but am only getting a few (free) subs.
I’m not saying the strategy is unviable, but if you want to do mother/slave on Twitter, then here’s what I would recommend:
- Find a cracked version of Jarvee or get an invite to the official one
- Set up your own mobile proxies using iproxy.online, mobile phones, and a cheap data plan (such as Mint mobile)
- Use mobile proxies (5 accounts per proxy operating in 6 hour intervals, so max 20 accounts per proxy, set to rotate IP every 5 minutes)
- Buy aged Twitter accounts with registered email
- Buy SIM cards for each of the accounts so you can do SMS verifications if Twitter starts asking you for them
- Set follows to 10 per day and increase by 10 daily
- Set up tweet campaigns with 10 unique posts per slave account that randomly recycle posts between ALL accounts
- Add 5-15 random hashtags per tweet from a list of 200+ hashtags
- Do NOT post NSFW hardcore content as you’ll be more likely to get flagged
TBH, setting this up isn’t really that hard.
What IS hard is maintaining it for 5 girls at once.
If I was smart, I would have fired all my girls except one and set up 500 slave accounts for her.
If you want to do this method, that is what I would recommend.
I may revisit this later, but my plate is too full to set this up for all of my girls.
Using Reddit To Promote My Girls (The Lesser Of Two Evils)
After losing interest in Twitter mother/slave, I decided to give Reddit another try.
I began the arduous process of researching subreddits, separating them into categories specific to each girl, and asking the girls for verifications.
I decided that I also didn’t want to manually post to all of their profiles every day (could you imagine?), so I signed up for LaterForReddit – a posting tool that allows you to bulk schedule posts to Reddit from multiple accounts.
I don’t recommend the tool for various reasons which I’ll get into later.
But for now, here’s what the process looks like:
- Make a list of 70-100 subreddits to post in (that don’t require verification)
- Make a list of 70-100 subreddits to post in (that do require verification)
- Load all of the models content into imgur (or redgifs if you are promoting with hardcore content)
- Create a spreadsheet with: links to the images, posting date, title of the post, reddit username, and flair (if any)
- Upload the spreadsheet into the tool
- Repeat for the 4 other models
It’s a ton of work and a massive pain in the ass.
Remember when I said that you should constantly be recruiting models non-stop and never say no to any one girl, even if you already had a bunch you were working with?
I might have been wrong about that.
It would be a different story if I had a RELIABLE system for getting traffic and converting that traffic into dollaridos.
But at the moment, I do not.
If, for example, I knew that if a girl supplied me with let’s say 300 sexy pics, 40 tease videos, 20 masturbation videos, and 5 PPV scripts and I could turn that into money in the first month, I’d recruit my ass off.
But alas, I do not have such a system.
My current system is more akin to “the shotgun method,” otherwise known as “spray and pray.”
That said, I am having SOME success with Reddit.
What I especially like about Reddit is that you will see results immediately.
If the posts get traction, the subs start coming in ASAP.
My issue isn’t so much that the fan pages aren’t getting traffic, it’s that I have too many models to pay proper attention to each one.
Finding all these subreddits, researching their rules, and writing unique posts for 5 different girls AND the added responsibility of trying to convert that traffic into $ via chatting is overwhelming.
That said, this massive workload is allowing me to learn much faster than if I was only working with one girl.
For example, I’m pretty good at writing post titles now.
After just a few days, I’ve got a bank of over 1000 unique post titles that I’ve used in Reddit posts.
If I were to separate my title bank into categories (boobs, ass, dildo, etc), I could easily randomize and populate them into the spreadsheets instead of having to come up with them one by one with my decreasingly functional brain.
Once I get to about 5000 unique titles, I’ll do that. But for now I’m doing things the hard (aka manual) way.
And by that I mean scheduling 30-50 posts per day PER GIRL.
It’s a headache and a half.
It’s not ideal by any means, but I guess right now I’m more in the “testing” phase for each girl to see which sub(s) perform the best for each of them.
The Results Of My Magical Reddit Shotgun Method
So what have the results been of my magical system?
To be perfectly honest, not too impressive.
On the one hand, some of my girls are getting a decent amount of organic upvotes on their posts.
I have one girl who has multiple posts that have gotten over 1k upvotes in the few days that I’ve been doing this.
At the time of this writing, she’s got over 200k views on her videos on RedGifs from just 8 videos.
And wouldn’t you know it, that exposure has turned into some fans – and even some money.
At first, I had her profile set to free. Or maybe it was a free first month.
I alternated because I kept changing my mind on whether to make it free, free first month, or discounted first month.
I thought, “Ok well maybe people won’t sub if they see there are less than 2k likes on the profile?”
So I set it to free, hoping I would get a bunch of free subs who would at least like some posts.
Doing that seemed to work, as I believe that now she’s got around 1k likes on her profile and is sitting at around 550 subs
Currently she’s at a $15/mo subscription price with 75% off the first month ($3 net). She’s getting about 5 paid subs per day.
So it’s something.
But way less than what I know she could be getting, based on the popularity of her content.
And since I know you’re going to ask, this is with ZERO paid upvotes.
Just as her account started getting some traction, someone hit me up from HF practically begging to partner with me as a chatter.
I should have learned my lesson regarding these types of partners, but he was so enthusiastic that I figured I’d give him a shot.
I gave him access to all her content and let him do his thing.
And at first, things semeed to be working pretty well. Through his chatting methods, he brought in about $200 in two days.
Nothing crazy, but these were mostly free fans.
I won’t lie: I was pretty stoked.
$100/day isn’t life changing by any means, but it was much better than $0/day.
Unfortunately, over the next few days the chatter seemed to lose interest.
His messages got lazier, stopped converting, and he brought in nothing over the next three days.
I eventually got rid of him, but watching how unsophisticated his chats were, I figured that I might as well take a crack at chatting myself.
My first day, I sent out a script one message after another, maybe about 20-30 minutes in between each one.
The plotline was that “I just come back from a late lunch where I drank a bunch of wine.”
Nothing revolutionary, but it gave me a chance to see what trying to sell through messages was like.
I had no idea what to price them at so I set them at free (first message) $3, $6, $11, $15 and $20 respectively.
Probably way less than what I should have sold them for.
I had one guy buy another one for $3. Just a few pics of her in her underwear.
And then the next day someone bought the final two messages. So I made about $80 in total.
I assume that’s pretty bad. But $80 is $80.
I’m not sure if my chatter “burned” the leads with his low effort one word + emoji openers, but I didn’t get much of a response to the mass messages that I sent out. Maybe it’s because they’re free fans?
Anyway, I have renewed respect for people who have mastered chatting. Definitely something I need to work on.
Fansly Vs OnlyFans: Which Is Better?
The Romanian girl from the last section is currently doing the best out of everyone.
Of course it could be going better, but progress being made and money is coming in.
But I just KNOW that if this account was in the hands of someone who knew what they were doing, they’d be pulling in $10k/mo easily.
It’s possible that because of the high caliber of members in my private Simp Hunters Telegram group, I am overexposed to people who are crushing hard and underexposed to people who suck (like me).
However, that’s exactly the reason why I hand pick these people for the group. So I suppose it’s a “good” problem.
That said, the rest of my girls are not getting anywhere near the level of traction that my Romanian chick is.
It’s got me scratching my head in confusion because there is one girl in particular that I think is more beautiful and makes better content.
She’s a Russian bimbo/bombshell with fake everything who makes content like a legit pornstar.
Good lighting, follows instructions, provides lots of content…
One major difference between the Russian bombshell and the Romanian is that the Russian chick is on Fansly and the Romanian one is on OnlyFans.
If you’ve read my previous articles, you’ll know that I frequently mention my Russian superstar scouts who have sent me lots of girls.
For various reasons, all of the models who have stuck around are on Fansly.
Thanks to my previous attitude of “never say no to a model because who knows she might be amazing,” I accepted all of these girls because I assumed the difference in conversions between Fansly and OnlyFans was negligible.
After all, if a guy is interested in a girl, he’ll whip out his credit card and sign up for her page, right?
Apparently not.
I still find it hard to wrap my head around the fact that conversion rates between the two platforms are so drastically different, but reality doesn’t lie.
Granted, the Romanian chick’s content on Reddit is performing much better.
The Russian chick only has around 80k views on RedGifs. But out of 80k views, you would THINK that would at least convert into some more paying subs.
In the week or so that I’ve been promoting her, I think she’s gotten 1 sub on Fansly (who signed up on a free 3 day trial with rebill off).
On Fansly there is an option to “follow” a creator (for free) instead of subscribing. I had this toggled on at first and she racked up an impressive 21 followers (/s).
Eventually I turned it off because I assumed that it was preventing people from signing up for a paid subscription.
Fansly is weird in that you cannot have a free page – you can only toggle the follow option to “on” and set the permissions for each individual post to be viewable by anyone.
Withi 100+ posts on her page, I didnt’ want to go back and retroactively adjust the permissions for each one.
Maybe that would have caused a massive explosion in free fans? I don’t know, but I don’t think so.
In Nathan Ashton’s course, he comments how when he was pulling in $50/day on Fansly, he would switch a girl to OnlyFans and that $50/day would turn into $500/day.
I’ve heard from other people that Fansly doesn’t convert nearly as well as OF, too.
In fact, pretty much everyone I know who has tried both platforms has said that Fansly converts worse than OnlyFans.
One guy in my group is crushing hard with $100k/months on Fansly, but he seems to be the exception that proves the rule.
Like I said before, I assumed that the perceived drop in conversions was blown WAY out of proportion. But it appears that once again, I assumed incorrectly.
As a platform, Fansly has a lot of interesting features that OnlyFans doesn’t.
You can get paid out in crypto, you can have tiered subscriptions (OnlyFans only has one), and their support actually responds to your messages within a few hours.
But what do Fansly’s extra features matter if you can’t get any subs in the first place?
Additionally, one weakness that Fansly has when compared to OF is that you are unable to view traffic stats like you are with OF.
On OnlyFans, I can see how many profile visitors I’ve had, how many are users vs guests, and do the calculations as to how many converted into actual subs.
Fansly has no on-page analytics AT ALL, which I find strange.
It doesn’t seem like it would be that hard to add and would tremendously help creators maximize their conversions.
Maybe they removed it because the low conversion rates demoralized creators and made them question the validity of the platform? I really have no idea.
Unfortunately, like with chatting, I don’t know if it’s something that I’m doing wrong or if it’s the lack of popularity of the platform itself.
With 100k+ views on her videos in less than a week, I would think that she’d at least get more than a handful of free trials. But she gets virtually no love at all.
It’s very frustrating.
I have other girls on Fansly as well: two Ukranian cam girls who provide a lot of content but are not as beautiful as the Romanian and Russian Bombshell
One of them, a blonde with large natural breasts, makes what I consider to be good content.
I’ve set up a PornHub account for her as well and she’s currently got about 10k views. She’s getting about 1k views on her channel per day and constantly sends me more content.
She follows instructions, provides lots of content (without me even having to ask), and responds within an hour if I need some verifications done.
I think she’s gotten around 6 subs on a free trial, and 1 who paid for one outright.
Same with the Russian chick I mentioned. Both of these girls provided 60+ Reddit verifications for me the same day I asked for them.
I’ve tried all kinds of things with them: free page, 3 day free trial, no free trial, subscription tiers… nothing seems to work.
I feel really bad too because they are so responsive, provide tons of content, and I can tell they are serious and hard workers.
But I am not able to produce a result for them.
And it’s not like I’m sitting around twiddling my thumbs, either.
I communicate with them every day in our respective groups.
I give weekly updates to the Russian scouts.
But none of this shit matters unless money starts coming in. And for these girls, it isn’t.
And this time, I can’t even blame the account managers for dropping the ball. It’s all me baby.
I’m really not sure what the problem is here. This is the same strategy that we used for my superstar and it worked swimmingly.
RLG 2.0 – My Model From Las Vegas
Finally, I have one more OnlyFans girl that I know from real life.
Those of you who have been following me since my journey threads on BlackHatWorld will remember that my first model was RLG (Real Life Girl).
She was a skinny tomboy with lots of tattoos, a magnetic personality, and just happened to be my little sidepiece.
Because of my inexperience, I blew it really quick with her. And it made me gun-shy about recruiting models in real life.
Vegas Girl is different.
When I moved to Vegas (back in 2020), I superswiped her on Tinder.
We matched and she actually messaged me first, saying: “No way, I awtch your YouTube videos!”
I don’t really mention it, but I had a YT channel that I ran for years before starting Simp Hunter (which I need to kickstart again). I would do fitness videos, vlogs, nutrition/training advice, that kind of thing.
Anyway, when I lived in Vegas I started organizing local photoshoots with models and photographers.
She came to my first one and actually showed up on time, which is very uncharacteristic of a model.
She even had an OnlyFans back then. But like most girls, she was struggling.
When I started my agency, I reached out to her and let her know.
Unfortuntaely, she had just closed her account.
But just before New Years she reached out to me again and asked if I’d be intersted in managing her account.
Of course I accepted. We had a call and here we are.
This just so happened to coincide with my decision to take a more active role in managing my models.
I set up her account about a week ago and only the other day started driving traffic with Reddit.
I set up 20 slave accounts for her on Twitter to test the waters, and from there she got around 20 free fans.
I’ve since changed it to paid ($3 first month with $15 rebill, same as the Romanian) and have gotten a few subs since starting Reddit the other day for her.
I have around 100 posts scheduled for her over the next few days so we’ll see how that goes. Currently waiting for Reddit verifications from her as well as another batch of content.
I’ve Made My Bed, Now I’m Sleeping In It
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So now you pretty much know where I’m at.
The way I see it, my main problem right now is this:
I have too many girls and not enough time to properly care for all of them.
This stems from two things:
- Firing all my account managers and choosing to do the work myself
- A MASSIVE understimation of the amount of work required to make a girl successful on the platform
I know some of you big timers read that and are like, “No way bro, this shit is literally so easy!”
Cool. Well how do you do it then?
Oh that’s right, you can’t say.
So I have to Sherlock Holmes this shit by piecing it together from forums, Telegram groups, and trial and error for not ONE girl but FIVE at the same time.
Digression aside, I will finally admit that I was disgustingly underprepared for the amount of work required to drive a respectable amount of high-converting traffic to their pages.
For example, if I only had ONE girl who was serious, I could focus all of my attention on her.
I could schedule 100 posts per day for her on Reddit, set up 500 slave accounts for her on Twitter, and spend more time working with her to create content for other platforms, like TikTok.
But instead, I have to schedule a minimum of 30 posts per day for 5 different girls – or 150 per day – track them all, try to figure out what’s working for whom (and double down on that), and trim the fat.
I’ve gotten myself into a giant clusterfuck of responsibility by scaling before I was ready.
I fucked up.
It’s kind of embarassing as well, since I made sooooo much noise about how great of an idea this was and how I was going to buy a yacht and a mansion as a result.
So now that I’ve defined my problem, let’s talk solutions.
What am I going to do about it?
It’s clear to me that other than the Romanian girl, what I’m doing is not working.
To be more specific: promoting Fansly pages via Reddit posts and Twitter mother/slave is not working.
If these girls were even getting 4-5 paid subs per day, I’d be saying something different. Then we could talk about boosting posts, hiring VAs, and scaling.
But they are barely even getting any free trials.
If things continue like this, then it’s only a matter of time before they get frustrated and give up.
I’d say I probably have another 2-3 weeks at best to provide a sign of progress.
Thought Experiment: What If There Were No Fan Pages?
Like I said earlier, I believe that I massively underestimated the amount of work required to make money via fan pages.
It seemed so easy with my superstar model that I assumed we could copy the same strategy with other girls.
Sure, maybe they wouldn’t get AS GOOD of results, but I assumed they would get better results than what they’re getting now.
If I’m still not making any progress by this time next week, I am going to have to make a hard decision:
Do I let them go? Or do I pivot the strategy?
Letting them go would allow me to focus on the Romanian girl and the girl I know in real life.
These are both OnlyFans girls, which means they are on a platform that would allow for easier promotion.
(Granted, my Romanian girl hasn’t replied to me in 3 days. She did say she was starting her period, but still not a good sign.)
That said, I’d rather NOT let them go since I have so much content from them and I KNOW there’s got to be something I can do in a week’s time that will bring in paying subs and start making money.
There’s no way that 14 year old retards who barely speak English can buy a pack and make $300/day ewhoring and I can’t.
Here are some options I’ve considered:
- Ditch Fansly and try to promote content on other platforms
- Ditch the agency altogether and provide services to agencies and models
Whatever happens, at the very least I would like to keep the Romanian and RLG 2.0 on the roster.
Shit, if I could get a result for the rest of them, I would like to keep them too!
That said, I believe that barring some miracle, I will stop promoting these girls on Fansly in the very near future.
It doesn’t make sense that there is virtually no growth on Fansly when OnlyFans seems so easy to grow by comparison.
So what are my options?
Could Clip Sale Sites Be The Answer?
The other day I was posting some content from the account of my Russian bombshell.
On a whim, I went to r/FanslyAdvice and made a plea for help posing as the model.
I got a DM from someone who basically told me, “I will help you make money on other platforms if you sign up for them under my affiliate link.”
I figured that I didn’t have anything to lose, so I wrote the guy an email as myself and explained the situation.
Long story short, he told me that it would be much easier to sell content on clip sites like ManyVids because they promote from within their own ecosystem.
All you have to do is upload the videos and they will take care of all of the sales and promotion for you.
He talked about promoting specific niches as well, implying that people are looking for specific types of content and would be willing to pay bigger money for it.
This got me thinking: what if instead of promoting Fansly accounts, I just helped these girls niche down and get their content on sites like ManyVids?
I did some digging around in their different categories and it looked like pretty stnadard stuff: kinks, BDSM, femdom – all stuff that I haven’t even touched because I saw the success my superstar had from literally just using a dildo and being loud.
In fact, this Redditor even said, “You seem to be doing hte same thing everyone else does: sticking things inside yourself.”
For some reason, that stuck with me.
What if I had these girls niche down into something more specific instead of just having them dildo themselves and post sexy pics?
Makes perfect sense to me, but in practice doesn’t seem like it’s been much of an easy sale – except to my Russian bombshell.
I REALLY like working with her.
She’s beautiful, makes good content (and a lot of it), is responsive, motivated, takes direction well, and best of all she has a good attitude.
I’m not saying the others don’t, but she has all of those characteristics.
Her only two downsides are:
- She only has Russian documents, whihc limit her ability to sign up on various sites
- She doesn’t speak any English
But you do the best with what you can.
So that’s one option: focus on clip sites more than fan sites.
I could have the girls niche down into something specific and blast that shit out like there’s no tomorrow.
This ties into something very smart that I heard another guru say a long time ago: you need to create multiple revenue streams for your models.
I’m paraphrasing here, but essentially what he said was that you need to get to the point where if OnlyFans were to disappear tomorrow, you wouldn’t even care because you have so many different revenue streams coming in for these girls anyway.
This is great advice, which of course I ignored.
(But I like to do things my way and then write 8000 word articles venting my frustration Maybe that’s why I’m still driving a minivan and living in Minneapolis instead of splitting my time between the beaches of Phuket and Tel Aviv.)
I think of it like this: what if I did a thought experiment where fan sites disappeared completely – what would I do?
- How would I sell their content?
- How would I promote them?
- What would I change?
I haven’t given it too much thought, since I never really clarified my thoughts until writing this article.
But if things continue to go like this next week, then I don’t believe I’ll have any choice.
It’s Not Quitting, It’s Pivoting
The second option I’ve been thinking of is abandoning the idea of running an agency altogether.
Look, I’ll be real with you: I do not really enjoy the day-to-day tasks of running an agency.
There are some things that I MASSIVELY enjoy, like recruiting and managing girls.
From my years of working as a salesperson in the beauty industry, I can confidently claim a high level of expertise when dealing with people – especially women.
I enjoy talking to them, encouraging them, and giving them direction.
I like the sales aspect of recruiting them.
Another thing I enjoy is breaking down complex topics into easy-to-understand concepts.
I like writing these articles and making YouTube videos.
What I DON’T like is creating spreadsheets to bulk import posts to Reddit, wading through a sea of dick pics to squeeze money from simps, and breaking my head against the wall trying to reinvent the perfect traffic strategy.
And as far as I can tell, those actions make up at least 90% of the success of running an agency, if not more.
Of course, if I was printing five figures a month from doing those things, I would probably be able to learn to love it.
And at this point, it’s been long enough that I think it might make sense to pivot.
You must have figured out by now that my original plan was to develop a system for creating a successful agency and then SELL that system in the form of courses, coaching, and consulting services.
Sadly, I don’t feel comfortable selling those services without a certain level of consistent success.
My success has been intermittent.
And if I’m perfectly honest, my “achievements” haven’t even been the result of anything I’ve even done myself.
However…
That doesn’t mean that I need to exit the game entirely (despite what some of my peers claim).
I believe there is still plenty of room to “sell the shovels” so to speak.
Specifically, I believe that offering services to agency owners – and even models – is something I can do withiout violating my own personal code of ethics.
Plenty of tools and services for OF creators exist that were made by people who did not make a fortune as agency owners:
- OF Buddy
- Supercreator
- Wishtender
- Stir
- Various model marketplaces
- Reddit upvote bots
- Social media panels
Those are just off the top of my head, but the point is that nobody really cares that the people that created these tools don’t have a background as successful agency owners.
It’s posssible that because I’ve been fixated on achieving a certain result, I’ve clouded my judgment to assume that I cannot sell anything without having successfully tested it first.
For example, despite the fact that it would probably lead to a decent chunk of affiliate income, I would not promote any of the above tools in an article because I do not have a successful track record of using them.
Maybe this is a weakness of mine, since I know it doesn’t stop a lot of other people.
But I just wouldn’t feel right about it.
I mean, maybe I could write like an expose about the tool and what it does.
But that’s boring. I like telling stories.
But at the end of the day, would I really give a shit about being boring if I was printing $50k/mo from my actions?
Probably not.
I’d probably be more comfortable lying out my ass about how I use all these tools and how they’re so amazing.
And maybe that’s the better approach to take, I don’t know.
Paint Me Like One Of Your Contact Form Submitter Girls
I mentioned earlier that I used to do Instagram automation back in 2018 (when it was much easier).
I managed to use a Jarvee-like tool to grow 100+ accounts to well over 30k followers each, growing some to 100-200k.
I did this during the first crypto boom as a side hustle in case crypto crashed, which it did.
After consulting for ICOs for six months (and making more money than I deserved), I saw the writing on the wall and decided to focus on selling something more evergreen: social media management.
I decided to sell a DFY service for businesses that would essentially just use the tool to follow/unfollow for them and post daily to their accounts.
I charged $100-$200/month for the service and used a contact form submitter called Paigham Bot to spam my outgoing sales messages to tens of thousands of busineses per day.
After doing this for a few months, I had managed to sign up quite a few customers.
And begin the type of guy who will take any excuse to write a long article, I wrote a story on my Medium blog about how I did it.
The piece is very entertaining and worth a read just for entertainment purposes, but it also had the unexpected effect of passively generating thousands of dollars in affiliate commissions since writing it.
Not only did I get to flex my writing muscles, but I was able to create something that helped me postpone the agony of selling hair straighteners for another few months.
The reason I bring this up is because in a perfect world, THAT is the type of article that I could write every week.
I have been straining hard to resist the urge to this website into a repository for cleverly-disguised affiliate marketing advertorials.
Obviously, I do promote some things on this blog. When you tell stories, it’s hard not to.
- I rep my Reddit Genius every chance I get.
- I promoted OBH’s group back when it was still open to the public.
- I plugged my model marketplace back when I wanted to get that going.
I tried – maybe unsuccessfully – as hard as I could to make it appear that I was just bringing up these things as part of a story I was telling.
But in reality, I brought them up because I wanted people to know about them. I wanted them to grow.
In the case of OBH and my Reddit Genius, I didn’t have anything to gain by bringing them up. I just did it to show my appreciation.
My model marketplace, the Incubator coaching program, and the (now defunct) business opportunities Telegram group are another story.
But in my defense, I hardly pursued those – albeit for different reasons.
Anyway, here’s the point I’m trying to make: I don’t know if running an agency is right for me.
That probably makes a lot of people happy who think I’m just a grifter – and of course they’re entitled to their opinion.
And it probably makes some people sad who believed in me and want my story to have a happy ending (I get messages from them all the time).
But that doesn’t mean that I need to exit the game completely.
It’s just a slight pivot.
Thanks to this blog and YouTube channel, I get hit up with offers for collaboration all the time from people.
Just the other day I got an offer from someone who is going to Cameroon to set up a company of VAs and wanted my help getting it off the ground.
If you asked me to point to Cameroon on a map for a million dollars, I couldn’t do it.
But here’s the amazing thing:
This person watched enough of my videos, read enough of my articles, and fostered a high enough opinion of me that he thought to himself:
“Hey, I should contact this guy that I’ve never met before and ask him if he wants to go into a businss venture with me!”
I get these kinds of messages all the time.
I’m not saying that all of them are good ideas crisply pitched by high-performing professionals, but to think that I managed to have this effect on people without consistently producing a reliable result on my own is nothing short of mind-boggling.
And not only that, the fact that these people presumably ARE WELL AWARE of this fact because they’ve consumed my publicly-available online diary and STILL wanted me to quarterback their project is nothing short of miraculous.
Look At Me – I’m The Startup Founder Now
In fact, the other day I had a call with someone who was willing to give me 25% of his company just for agreeing to be the “domain expertise guy” that can help him put together tech solutions for agency owners and models.
This guy knows full well that I’ve only been in the game since September. He also knows I’m struggling.
But he didn’t care. And that was kind of encouraging.
Out of all the projects that I’ve been pitched, his seemed the most appealing: it’s an alternative to WishTender that has more DFY options.
It’s not off the ground yet – and it’s possible this will fizzle out like so many deals that have come before it – but it sounds interesting and the guy has a prior track record of success with other startups.
During our call, I told him what I just explained to you: that I don’t feel comfortable promoting something that I haven’t actually used successfully, a la my Paigham Bot article.
This is why I was harrassing so many people to coach me for free in exchange for writing a case study about their program.
I DESPERATELY wanted a single case study of my own that I could point to and say, “See? I did it!” So I could get this coaching party started.
Is having a link to a Wishtender alternative really going to be the c-c-c-combo breaker that takes me to five figures a month?
Very unlikely.
My agency has so many flaws right now it’s like a cancer-ridden lab rat.
But when we were on this call, I had a lightbulb moment: I don’t actually need the case study to be about me – I can make it about anyone.
In other words, I don’t actually need to get the result on my own.
Taking this service as an example, I don’t need to be the one to make the money. My models don’t need to be the ones who crush it.
All I have to do is help this guy create something that helps agency owners make more money and BOOM – there’s my case study.
“Let us make the wishlists for you – we’ll choose the products, set the pricing, and write the sales copy – all you have to do is put the link in your model’s bio. Just send us a screen shot every week of how much you earned from it.”
Bada boom bada bing – instant street cred.
Convincing 10 successful agency owners to put a link in the bio of a model’s account that will help them earn more money sounds a lot easier than all the shit I have to put up with trying to successfully run 5 girls from scratch.
I’m not saying it’s going to happen overnight, but the guy I spoke with over the phone has done this before in other niches.
He built an ecommerce tool called [REDACTED] that hit $2m ARR (annual recurring revenue) within 12 months.
He’s a tech guy. He has a team. He can do shit.
I – on the other hand – am over here fumbling with spreadsheets and retail Reddit posting tools to promote Fansly girls like an amateur.
Anyway, we just had our first call today, So I don’t want to get too excited. But it seems promising.
I’m not saying I’m going to give up on the agency just yet. But I definitely need to make a change.
I want to try my clip sales ideas and niching down a bit. Then we’lll see.
It’s A Mess – And It’s All Mine
So that’s pretty much where I’m at right now.
It’s not pleasant, I’ll tell you that.
I feel like I’ve inherited a huge mess and am trying to make shit work that just wasn’t meant to work.
That’s what’s hard about this business.
You try methods that you think will work, but if it doesn’t work, then you don’t know WHY it doesn’t work. And there’s no real documentation or help out there that can guide you.
If I think about it, I guess it all still really comes down to these 3 things:
- Get models
- Drive traffic
- Convert the traffic
Yes, I know that’s oversimplifying.
Each of those can be broken down into more nuanced segments which in turn can be refined to get a better result.
For example, I used to believe that it didn’t matter what the girl looked like (to a certain extent). If she was hard working, then she would make money.
Well let me tell you, I am starting to question that.
I have some girls who work hard as fuck. I’ve got literally hundreds of pictures and dozens of videos of them, but I’m still not able to turn it into anything.
They are decent looking. I’m sure you’d probably fuck them. But they are not the type that make your jaw drop.
I can’t help but believe that extraordinary girls are much easier to promote.
A beautiful girl who makes decent content is going to have a much easier time on every platform than an average girl who makes amazing content.
I used to not believe that to be true, but my experience is telling me otherwise.
It’s very possible that I’m just doing something wrong.
For example, I really believe that choosing a specific niche from the outset is key to success.
Femdom, BDSM, pee, JOI videos.. have the girl pick one of those niches and tell her to make those types of videos.
Standard nudes/masturbation shit is just so common these days.
At least, that’s what I think. I could be wrong. Because like I said, it’s possible that I’m just doing something wrong.
Let me actually just think out loud for a moment and make a list of what the weak points could be:
- Non-stunning girls
- Poor promotion method (saturated vanilla content on Reddit)
- Fansly converts worse than OnlyFans
- Content is too general, not niched down
So then in a perfect world, it would be like this:
- Girls would be stunning
- Superior promotion method (TikTok/Reels)
- OnlyFans girls ONLY
- Niched down content (BDSM, Kink, Femdom)
The more I think about it, the more I’m tempted to just start fresh and get rid of everyone except my two OF girls.
I really like the Russian bombshell. She’s unironically a pleasure to work with.
I am getting nowhere with her Fansly though.
Not only that, but as a whole I believe there is huge potential for Russian girls. They’re stunning, transactional, hard working and responsive.
Every Russian girl I’ve worked with has been like that. It would be a shame to let them go to waste just because they are restricted from joining the most popular fan site.
So in that case, we would just focus on having them niche down and putting their content on clip sites like ManyVids.
So let me think about this for a second.
In a perfect world, here’s what would happen:
- I would have my Vegas friend make niche content, TikToks/Reels, put her on clip sites, and promote her on Reddit.
- I would have my Romanian girl continue to make the type of content she made that was successful (essentially sex tapes with her bf).
- I would pitch the niching-down to my Fansly girls and see if they were game, keeping only the ones who were..
Since sites like ManyVids et al have their own internal promotion system, I wouldn’t need to spam posts for the Russian girl on Reddit anymore.
That means I could focus on spamming Vegas girl’s posts on Reddit while she does TT/Reels.
I guess that’s better, but still leaves something to be desired.
Fuck, I wish I just had a system for this shit already. It’s so frustrating.
Reviving The Coaching Program/Incubator… Really?
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Finally, the last thing I want to talk about is my coaching program.
I know it seems ironic to talk about coaching after I just spent an entire article talking about my frustrations. Yet here we are.
I’ve always been attracted to the coaching business model and finally pulled the trigger by hiring an expert to actually help me make it happen.
Several months ago, I paid one of these high priced ClickFunnels experts a lot of money to help me make a coaching funnel for a different business.
About a year ago I started the business to sell beauty products.
Not that I’m crazy about beauty products or anything, but the bulk of my professional career has been in selling products in the beauty industry.
Granted, that was face to face sales. But I figured it was at least something I was familiar enough with that I could sell a coaching program on the topic.
I worked with him for a few months to get the information together to create the funnel.
But when I moved from Miami to Minnesota to focus on my new roofing job, I put the coaching program on the backburner.
I’m not sure if I’ve ever mentioend it on here, but the reason I ended up in this frozen town is because an old friend of mine convinced me that I should come sell roof repair in Minnesota.
I’m so gullible sometimes.
I trusted this guy (oops) and made the move.
Long story short, it didn’t work out exactly as I planned. So now I’m stuck here in Minnesota until my lease is up at the end of June 2023.
Fast forward to November of 2022 when I started SimpHunter.com.
I realized that publicly recording my journey was resonating with a large segment of the community, and I saw potential to parlay that into a coaching program.
My first “test” of running a coaching program was the Agency Incubator that I halfheartedly advertised at the end of one article.
Despite virtually no promotion, I got about a dozen applications from people who were interested. About 25% of those were STILL interested even after hearing the price.
I was knee deep in spinning the plates of my outsourced agency at the time, so never really got around to actually putting a program together.
But before the end of 2022, I decided to reach out to my ClickFunnels expert and let him know that I wanted to pivot.
It was an awkward conversation, because apparently his copywriter had already written the sales page for the beauty business.
But I showed him my model sales letter, SimpHunter.com, and a few other documents that I’d created and told him that I would be happy to rewrite the copy on my own.
He was nice enough to accomodate my change in business and now we are back on track to put something together.
I know that earlier in this article I talked about not feeling like I was ready to coach others, but to be honest I dont give a fuck anymore.
I know enough. I have enough experience.
Yes, there are obviously people out there that are further along than I am and [if they were as good of communicators as I am] they would make much better coaches.
I should know, because there are over 110+ of them in my private Simp Hunters Telegram group.
The problem is that they have no platform on which to advertise. No blog, no YouTube channel, no brand recognition like I do.
But more improtantly, they don’t seem to have the desire to adopt hte coaching model at all.
I’m sure that one of the reasons is that they are doing well enough with their agency that they don’t want to be bogged down by answering newbie questions like, “Where do I find models?” and “Do you have a sample contract?”
But if you pay me $5k I’d be happy to answer those questions for you.
I’ll even give you my contracts, onboarding procedures, traffic methods, chatter manuals…
I’ll give you everything and help you along the way.
I used to go to raves when I was younger. I liked combining drugs and electronic music a little too much.
I liked it SO much in fact that I decided I wanted to start making electronic music.
I remember sitting down with a friend of mine who was good at Fruity Loops while he helped me try to make a song.
I knew what I wanted the song to sound like, but I wasn’t capable of doing it on my own.
That’s kind of what I feel like now with the agency. I know what I need to do, I just can’t seem to make it work.
Is that because I’m not smart enough?
I doubt that.
There’s plenty of idiots printing tons of money every month.
I think the reason is because I tripled down on my previous business model, inherited a huge mess, and now have to sift through my assets and decide what’s worth keeping and what’s worth throwing away.
It’s not as easy as it sounds.
I have relationships with scouts who are relying on me.
I have relationships with these models who I talk to every day.
It’s not so simple to just cut ties and say bye bye.
But at the end of hte day, I guess I have some hard deicisons to make if I wnat to make the best choice for me.
I am not doing this to make models and scouts happy. I’m doing this to put money in my bank account.
And honestly, if I have a weak spot in my methods, I can just tap someone in the group to coem in and teach whatever it is I’m weak at.
Of course, if your agency is already crushing then you’re probably not my customer. But for new people I have a ton I can offer:
- My model-recruiting sales letter
- The contract I send to signed models:
- The starting content pack (content required to launch an OnlyFans account)
- High-converting hardcore content guidelines and instructions
- Weekly/monthly content requirements for models per platform (+ explanations)
- Proposal template for pitching porn studios
- High-converting OnlyFans IG ads
- Sample sexy teases (to send to models for ideas to record short promo clips)
- Sexy poses (for models to copy for photos)
- Thirst TikToks (for models to copy)
- Payout methods and explanations
- My onboarding email sequence for new models
- Membership to the Simp Hunters private Telegram group of over 100 advanced agency owners
And I can always tap my friends to fill in my weak spots.
I have my Reddit Genius who I can tap to come teach his Reddit methods.
There are Tinder experts in the group who get 100 paid fans a day with Tinder.
There are TikTok experts in the group who print $40k/mo with TikTok.
Once I get some customers, I can just pay them a flat fee and have them teach whatever the fuck it is they do.
I’m sure some of them will be willing to do it.
I think the burden I’ve placed on myself of wanting to know how to do EVERYTHING on my own so that I could teach it MYSELF has been completely unnecessary.
I mean if you think about it, most business owners don’t know how to do everything. That’s why they hire people.
Shit, even if you’re a coach or guru, you don’t need to know how to do everything in your method in order to make it work.
I don’t need to be the one to actually get the result, I can just get someone to come in and get it for me and teach teh kids.
So I don’t give a fuck anymore basically.
You want to call me a fake, a liar, a phony, a grifter, go ahead. I’ve been called worse.
But even without having published anything for a solid month, I still get hit up multiple times per day on Telegram from people who tell me how much my content has helped them.
And all I did was just tell stories about how I learned from fucking up.
Anyway, this thing is long enough. Bye bye.
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