Why You MUST Start A Journey Thread On The SimpHunter Forums If You’re In It For The Long Haul
“Remember: It’s not a real adventure until things stop going as planned.”
With the recent launch of the SimpHunter discussion forums, I’m feeling a little overwhelmed.
Don’t get me wrong – launching the forum was a 4d chess move, but it’s a lot more work than I originally anticipated.
More importantly, it’s yet ANOTHER thing I have to devote some of my attention to every day.
No, I’m not complaining. I love my little forum.
But the fact of the matter is that I have a ton of stuff going on and need to get organized.
Back when I first started OFM, I used to keep myself on track by maintaining a Journey thread on BHW.
The first thing I would do every single morning would be to update my thread with the previous day’s progress.
At the end of the post, I’d make a list of all the things I wanted to achieve that day.
I found those Journey threads incredibly useful for several reasons:
- They helped me stay organized
- They allowed me to network with other blackhat professionals in the adult space
- I was able to get feedback from veteran members
- I effectively “crowdsourced” my initial strategy
Unfortunately, one particular mod had a hard on for me and ended up locking my threads and banning me from the forum.
Determined to keep the momentum going, I started my SimpHunter blog and the rest is history.
But now that my forum is fully operational, I’ve decided to get the journey thread going again.
It’s a little intimidating now that I am an “established” person. I feel like I have a lot more on the line than I did when I was starting.
Back then, it was ok to suck. Now, not so much.
Still, the benefits of running a Journey thread FAR outweigh any temporary embarassment I might feel at the perceived judgment by other OFM people.
But my TRUE goal with this post is not to just have you go read my Journey thread and call it a day.
My ideal situation is that you join the forum and start YOUR OWN journey thread for us to follow.
Ideally, this post will do 3 things:
- Pique your curiousity enough to at least check if I’m updating my own journey thread
- Display the value of publicly keeping track of your progress
- Inspire you to share your own journey
Most of the personalities in this article – many of them names you will recognize – I met either directly or indirectly as a result of my own Journey threads.
If I had just struggled in silence like so many of you, I probably would have given up on this business after a month.
But because I struggled LOUDLY for everyone to see, I attracted the attention of some of the biggest people in the game.
Does that mean you have to start a blog and write 9000 word articles? Of course not.
Setting a goal publicly and taking 10 minutes out of your day to talk about your challenges, progress, and small wins is not a huge investment.
Especially considering the incredible value that comes from being in the spotlight.
Are you convinced yet?
If so, go over to the forum NOW and start your damn Journey thread!
And if not, enjoy the article!
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“So, how’s your agency going?”
When I was making the outline for this post, I realized that my “agency” only makes up about 10% of my entire operation.
That said, I feel like it’s probably the best idea to start with this section since it’s likely the most relatable to this audience.
My current top model is a US-based creator in the BDSM niche.
After months of filtering through applicants, she was the only one who didn’t give me AIDS when I talked to her.
We have a good relationship and talk multiple times per day over DMs.
There are a few things I like about working with her:
- She is willing to do TikToks/Reels
- She responds to my messages in a reasonable timeframe
- She has a positive disposition
- We have a good working relationship
Best of all, some of her Reels went viral the other day – getting her over 1 million views and around 100 new paid subs.
I have to give credit where it’s due: this came after enrolling in Razvan’s TikTok Mastermind program.
While her success came from IG, not TikTok, we applied the same principles from Razvan’s program.
The platforms are similar enough that it didn’t seem to make a difference.
With her, we lucked out somewhat because she already had an established niche before I found her.
From there, it was just a matter of finding the proper format and repeating it non stop.
I believe we’ve found that format.
To test this, I’m having her send me 3-5 Reels per day that I’ll send off to an editor to improve the flow. These will then get sent back to her for her to publish on her page.
If I’m correct and we really HAVE found the format, this strategy is going to be responsible for thousands of new paid subs per month.
From there, it’s just a matter of developing the backend.
Regarding the backend, I FINALLY got around to putting a chatter on her account.
Before finding the viral formula with IG, she was getting about 5 paid subs per day through a collection of other methods.
We have two TikTok accounts going for her, but they are not doing nearly as well as IG. I believe the best TikTok she’s done has gotten just over 50k views.
I’ll take videos with 50k views all day, but it’s nothing compared to a million.
Once I saw that she was actually serious about making the content, I knew it was time to get a chatter.
Here’s a fun fact for you: I hate chatting.
And when I say I hate chatting, I mean I REALLY hate chatting.
I cannot stand talking to these guys, pretending to be interested in what they’re talking about, and looking at their dick pics.
It reminds me of going on dates with girls, except without the payoff.
Or rather, the payoff is earning money instead of sleeping with them.
Maybe if there were thousands of fans on her account and I had a few dozen sets to sell these guys, I might change my mind.
But at the moment, this girl only has a handful of premium content to sell.
I’d also like to avoid the back and forth of, “Hey this guy wants you to make a 10 minute video of you sniffing your socks while you mast*rbate and say, ‘I’m your little sl*t, Kevin,’ over and over.”
Yeah I’m good.
I would love, however, to assign a chatter to that account to handle that for me.
Another thing I want to get going for her is to start posting on her Reddit account.
I reached out to the Big Homie @accountstealth, got myself a new account, and will start reposting some of her Reels to relevant subreddits.
What I like about her niche is that it has very low competition on Reddit.
This – combined with @accountstealth’s new supercheap upvote panel – means that I can easily rank in the top spot for her niche in around 10 or so decent sized subreddits.
I still have trauma from my last experience with Reddit, so we’ll see how this goes.
Maybe I can get @accountstealth to resume his role as my Reddit Genius and help me out.
I have another model who is still on the roster who is also hard working, but needs more direction.
This girl is a strong-willed performer who is one of those types who wants to do things HER way.
You know, the type who doesn’t do so well at following instructions.
Not being able to follow instructions because you’re too stupid is different than not following instructions because you’re hard-headed.
Neither are ideal, but at least the stupid ones can be taught. The hard-headed ones need to be CONVINCED.
I think with her the issue is really just that she didn’t identify too much with part of Razvan’s strategy for growing on TikTok.
A lot of it involves posting thirst traps, and this is the type of girl who takes her online identity a little more seriously.
Being an artist at heart, my first model also has the same issue, but she’s able to look past it for the sake of earning money.
This one, not so much.
Essentially what it comes down to is this:
You need to figure out a way for these girls to comfortably create content on a daily basis that has a high chance of tricking the platform into showing it to as many people as possible.
After working with her to choose a niche, she settled on the “booty” category.
Will see how that goes.
To do:
- Hire an editor to edit Reels for my first model
- Start posting to Reddit for my first model
- Get her to do daily scripts for the chatter to sell
- Send booty content to my second model to copy
The Ultimate Guide to Reddit For OnlyFans Agency Owners
If you’re in the OFM space and have done anything with Reddit, then you’ve probably heard of @accountstealth.
Or as I like to call him, my “Reddit Genius.”
This guy was singlehandedly responsible for my Superstar model bringing in $5k in her first two weeks on OnlyFans.
Once that girl dropped off, we both got busy with other things.
Obviously we stayed on good terms, but we never really had a chance to work on anything together since then.
About a week ago, I reached out to him with an idea:
What about a full-fledged Reddit program for OnlyFans agency owners?
If you take a look at his site, he’s got quite the suite of offerings for Reddit services.
But one thing he DOESN’T have is a comprehensive course on getting your models traction on Reddit.
Yes, he has some resources.
And yes, he sells Reddit management as a service.
But he doesn’t have the full-blown how-to guide on doing everything.
In the past few months, I’ve launched several of my own offerings. I feel like I have a pretty good handle on how to productize my offerings and promote them.
I’m no expert, but I would definitely say that I have more experience than most in launching OFM products and services.
Here’s a look at the BASIC funnel I’m using now:
Blog > Lead magnet > 28 day email sequence > coaching offer + services
It’s slightly more complex than that, but you get the idea.
Essentially it’s: get them in the door with a lead magnet and then send them an email every single day for the rest of their lives.
Some of the emails are direct offers (“20% off this thing right now!”) while others are just straight value-adds (“How to do X without Y”).
But regardless of the topical content, if nothing else I try to at least be entertaining.
Plus, remember that each one of these emails has a link to my store, my blog, the new forum, and my YouTube channel.
As I continue to develop my own marketing funnel, I can apply these improvements to any new funnels I start.
Anyone I partner with will automatically start with the version 4.12 of my funnel instead of version 1.0.
This little prototype can also be applied to other products and services that involve me in the future.
For example, let’s say someone reads this article and thinks, “Maybe that YallaPapi guy would want to help ME productize my knowledge, build me a marketing funnel, and market it to his audience on my behalf?”
If someone were to – by pure coincidence, of course – bring that up to me (say, on Telegram)) and pitch me their idea, I could quickly deploy the same setup for them as well.
And if not, I can just use it for my own stuff.
The plan with the Reddit course
@accountstealth and I have been kicking around the idea of selling a course together for a while.
You may be wondering, “He’s the Reddit Genius – what does he need you for?”
To be perfectly honest, he doesn’t need me. He could absolutely do this on his own.
Or at the very least, he could go look for a few freelancers to do the work for him.
But since we’re besties, obviously he’d rather work with me.
And not only that, when I approached him with the idea, I didn’t just say, “Hey bro let’s do a course.”
I came to him with:
- An outline for the program
- A full marketing plan
- A clear division of responsibilities
- A proposed compensation scheme
If there’s one thing that I learned from selling B2B services, it’s that people LOVE a DFY system.
This is the one weakness with selling information products – it still requires that the buyer DO something.
Consider these two options:
- I’ll teach you how to make a million dollars
- I’ll do all the work for you to make a million dollars
Which one of those do you think would sell better?
Yes, maybe some of you would think that it’s better to have the knowledge than have to rely on someone to do the work for you.
But that’s not what I asked.
I asked WHICH ONE WOULD SELL BETTER.
Obviously more people would go with option 2.
When I approach people with a deal, I take the same approach.
I didn’t just kick the idea over to him and think, “Gee I hope he says yes.”
I stacked the deck in my favor by making his contribution seem as small as possible compared to alllllll the work I plan to do.
I essentially provided HIM with a DFY solution, where his involvement was minimal beyond creating the core material.
Once he agreed, I didn’t nag him with questions, either. I went straight to work.
Two days later, I sent over the rough draft of a 6000 word lead magnet for the program.
Let’s say WORST CASE SCENARIO that our deal falls through, I can still use this lead magnet for my own purposes.
I can post it as an article, I can use it for my own Reddit program, or I can repurpose it to partner with another service provider.
So it’s not really like I was risking anything either.
Anyway, here is the outline we came up with:
Module 1: Mindset / Preparation
- Why Reddit? Overview
- Setting expectations
- How to use this course (go through it all at once, step by step, skip ahead, etc)
- What you need to get started (content per week, proxies, etc)
- 90 day plan (what to focus on each month, etc)
Module 2: Account setup
- New acc vs paid acc
- Pros/cons of using a new account
- How to build post karma
- How to build comment karma
- Pros/cons of using an aged account
- Where to buy aged accounts
- What kind of aged account to buy (best usernames, etc)
- How to use anti-detect browser
- How to use mobile proxies
- Where to get the best mobile proxies
- How to fill out your Reddit bio
- How to set up your pinned posts
Module 3: Subreddits + Posting
- Finding subreddits for your model
- Verified subs vs unverified subs
- How to find the best subs for your model
- How to do Reddit verifications
- How to build the profile/bio
- How to buy upvotes
- Best upvote panels to use
- How many upvotes should you buy
- Should you watermark your content
Module 4: Scaling (Bonus)
- How to hire and train a VA
- How to build an NSFW subreddit
- Automation tools suggestions
- How to run multiple accounts of the same girl
- Comparison of post-scheduling tools
Module 5: Automation (Upsell)
- How to hire and train a VA (SOPs + scripts)
- How to 10x your progress (bots, autoposting)
- Building NSFW subreddits on autopilot (autoposting tool)
- Custom bots + automation tools
- Posting tool presets and configurations
Obviously this may change before the course launches, but the idea is the same.
When creating solutions, I like to come up with 3 versions of the same offer:
- Core offer
- Core offer + bonuses (to make it easier)
- Core offer + DFY/Scaling (to make it hands off)
If you only have 1 offer, then the buyer is faced with making a “yes/no” decision.
If you have 3 offers, the buyer will make a “which one” decision.
At least, that’s the hope.
Personally, I think this course has YUGE potential.
Not only will it be THE go-to course for Reddit professionals, but it will be a great entry-point for beginners to get into the business.
And advanced users will get value from the custom bots we plan to offer.
One of the things I love about this collab between me and @accountstealth is the myriad of monetization strategies available to us.
- Course sales
- Addons and bonuses (his other info products)
- Upvote panel
- Proxy sales
- 28 day automatic email sequence
- Additional email campaigns
- Custom software addons
I’ll go over this in more detail in a later section, but one of the things I’m most excited about with this is the software selling aspect of it.
SAAS is an incredible business model. You can pay a couple hundred or thousand dollars for a piece of extremely useful software and sell it forever.
So not only do you get to use the tool essentially for free, but you can earn money on the backend for eternity if it’s marketed properly.
For Reddit, a few ideas we have for software are:
- Bulk watermark tool
- Crossposting bot
- Subreddit builder bot
- Mass Reddit DM bot
By offering tools on a subscription basis, you are ensuring that you retain customers for life instead of just selling them one-off products or services.
To do:
- Write 28 day email sequence
- Structure offer + sales letter
- Source software tools
I’m very excited about this. Will keep you posted when it’s ready to launch.
Selling Services To OFM Agency Owners
In the past few months, I’ve built myself a nice little business selling services to OnlyFans agency owners.
My top sellers have been my recruiting packages, but I’ve also made a decent amount of sales of other products as well.
Lately, I’ve been selling quite a few model testimonials.
These girls are convincing actors, have great turnaround time, and actually do what they say they will.
Would love to have them as OF girls!
I’ve never tried hiring actors before. Maybe that would be a good little niche to go after.
I do need to move soon. Maybe I should move back to LA?
Getting back to the point, these services are putting a nice little chunk of money in my pocket.
Halfway through May, I’ve already earned about $7k from service sales alone. Not too bad!
Obviously, I would like to grow this, but the question is how?
I am a full believer in the axiom, “If you want to sell more stuff, then have more stuff to sell.”
Even just a few sales here and there of each of my products will give me a nice income.
But I think my weakness is – ironically enough – marketing.
I don’t really sell any one thing TOO hard.
My homie @accountstealth, for example, can push all his sh*t under one banner: REDDIT.
My other homie, BTZ, can count on guaranteed dollars by pushing people to his model marketplace.
I, on the other hand, have a smattering of assorted products and services that don’t really congeal into anything that can be used with one another.
Maybe there is some synchronicity, but it’s not on the level of @accountstealth, for example.
One idea I had was to silo my content more effectively.
Like I said before, most of my stuff is spread all over the place. Yes, I sell a lot of stuff, but I need to do a better job of connecting the services to one another.
The easiest way to organize my offerings into more sellable categories would be to silo everything into its own sales funnel.
If we use recruiting as an example, then I would have an entire funnel set up for recruiting that would look like:
Lead magnet > email sequence > course > backend sales
Then it would just be a matter of copying the structure of that funnel for subniches (Tiktok, Instagram, chatting, etc).
This siloing of different niches would ensure more efficient targeting. And as we all know, better targeting = more sales.
The only downside to this is that it’s a f*cking MASSIVE amount of work to create funnels based around each individual topic.
On top of doing it for all my different offerings, I need to do it for the project I have coming out with @accountstealth as well.
AND I even have another partner (who I can’t disclose yet) who has hired me for a similar project.
Quite a lot of work!
When Is WishHush Launching?
Those of you who have been following me for a while probably know that I am partner in a tool called WishHush.
We are building a custom wishlist building tool for OnlyFans creators that provides cash donations for the creators to purchase the products on their own.
(Yes, you CAN put a non-Amazon wishlist link in your creator’s bio!)
The beautiful thing about this tool is that creators can:
- Design their own stores
- Create their own products
- Set their own prices
- Accept payments directly into their bank account
The downside is that it requires these creators to do actual WORK – which we all know is something OnlyFans models are apparently allergic to.
And it’s not even that they’re allergic to it.
Most OnlyFans girls are not anywhere NEAR technologically sophisticated enough to build what is essentially their own dropshipping store.
And yes, we are aware that there is a tool like this that exists. Where do you think we got the idea?
Our goal is to do what they are doing – but better.
As I see it, the main problem with our main competitor is that they don’t offer any pre-built solutions for creators.
Here’s how we plan on making our offer more attractive:
- Offer pre-built store templates for creators
- Provide free OnlyFans promotions guides for creators
- Provide support for agencies that want to create stores on behalf of their models
As much as I love the OnlyFans agency owner community, I have to admit that there is 1000x more potential in servicing the independent creators out there.
Not only are OnlyFans models a much bigger market, but models are far less technologically sophisticated than e-pimps.
Your average e-pimp is resourceful enough to spend a few hours a day finding free solutions to his problems.
E-thots, on the other hand, are not.
Models are much more susceptible to marketing, unwilling to do more than rudimentary research, and are MUCH more impulsive buyers.
Yes, I know NOT ALL independent female creators are like this, blah blah blah. But 99% are.
All we have to do is establish credibility through some articles, free guides, and YouTube videos and we are instantly the #1 choice for custom wishlist tools for independent creators everywhere.
Throw in some blackhat marketing tactics and we’re golden.
For example, one of the things I’d like to do once the tool gets launched is to scrape Instagram for OnlyFans creator contact info and send them marketing material about our tool.
Imagine automatically inboxing a list of 20,000 creators with information on a tool that will help them make more money.
Throw in a free guide or two and BOOM – instant revenue.
Another cool thing about this idea is that it can easily be coupled with information product sales.
One company that I think has done an EXCELLENT job of this is ClickFunnels.
Not only do they provide a SAAS tool for entrepreneurs to sell their services, but they also sell TONS of information products on the backend.
And guess what ALL these information products indirectly promote? THE TOOL.
I’d like to take the same approach to WishHush.
We provide the tool and then provide resources on how to use it to make as much money as possible.
Yes, we’d have free lead magnets and content on the site.
But we would also sell more in-depth guides and plans for models to follow on their own for faster results.
No, we probably wouldn’t be selling them access to $75/month US 5G mobile proxies, but we could sell them a service that handles their Reddit posting for $1000/mo.
If I’ve learned one thing since starting in OFM, it’s that if you have an audience, you can make money.
It’s the AUDIENCE that’s the most important asset. Not the product, not the marketing, not the ads – but the AUDIENCE.
If you have a targeted audience, you can have the worst ads in the world and still make bank.
No audience? No money.
Another cool thing that can be done with WishHush is to add a full-blown agency (or recruitment service) onto the backend.
The value-add would look like this:
- Use our tool to make more money
- Read our free guides for help with promoting
- Buy our paid guides to extra help
- Buy our promotion services for a DFY solution
- Hire us as an agency for promotion + sales (chatting)
- Let us place you with a professional agency
Like I said earlier, the important thing is the AUDIENCE.
Once you have the audience, it’s just a matter of earning their trust and figuring out how to sell them things on the backend.
Or as the gurus like to say, “how to add value.”
Influencer marketing with Justin Lubert
I mentioned my influencer event coordinator friend Justin Lubert in my last article.
Justin and I recently worked together to promote a private 200-person festival in California.
My idea was to test the outreach strategies I learned from putting together my recruiting programs as lead gen methods for other industries.
The way influencer marketing like this works is pretty simple:
Event organizers want influencers to come, so you DM a bunch of high-follower count people and invite them to the party.
Some will say yes, some will say no. It’s a numbers game like anything else.
From my little experiment, I got quite a few interested bites.
I only had a week to work my magic, but even with such short notice we got a few additional high-follower count guests to come to the party.
And the cool thing about offering value like this is that even if the girls CAN’T come, they’ll still send you a message thanking you for the invitation.
This is VERY helpful when you’re targeting influencers that have 200k+ followers because it opens a conversational thread with them.
So if you message them again, not only are you landing in their actual inbox (and not message requests), but they’ll remember you favorably because of the value you offered last time.
I 100% believe there is potential in this idea on its own.
During a call with Justin, we bounced some ideas around and landed on a 50% split between us and the influencers.
A lot of them take retarded amounts of money for posts and stories, so there’s definitely money in this idea.
And I’ve seen Justin’s network of influencers – he’s got 600+ extremely high follower girls that he knows PERSONALLY.
So finding the creators isn’t the problem.
The “problem” would be in finding the actual customers.
But like anything else, it’s just a numbers game.
And with a few HQ IG accounts, we could hit 500 of those brands per day per VA that we assign to the project.
Run the system for a month and I’m sure we’d at least make our $600 back (for 2 VAs).
All I’d have to do would be to generate the leads and hand them off to Justin to close.
Another cool thing about this idea is that I imagine it would be a VERY attractive perk to potential OnlyFans models for working with us.
Not only would we get their OnlyFans off the ground, but we’d also actively work to secure them brand deals once their reach gets big enough.
It would give them something to work towards.
It’s an idea for sure, but with all the other sh*t I have going on, it’d be a challenge to find the time.
Reviving My Model Marketplace
In my last article, I definitely took a sh*t on marketplaces as viable business models.
Retarded buyers, fickle girls, and a high refund rate are enough to make even the most seasoned business professional think twice.
However, there are some incredible advantages to running a model marketplace that you really just can’t get through any other method.
Look no further than the breakout success of BTZ – or “The Underdog” as I like to call him – over the past six months.
Half a year ago, BTZ was a non-entity. And now he’s got:
- The biggest and most vouched OnlyFans model marketplace
- The most popular OnlyFans general discussion TG group
- A thriving Reddit Telegram group
- An acclaimed course for recruiting models
- Widespread respect in the community
Yes, he’s a great guy and all that. But I would argue that the primary driver behind his success is his model marketplace.
Let’s look at all the benefits that having a well-run model marketplace will give you:
- Access to high-level agency owners
- Instant revenue from selling models
- A constant source of new group members (spillover from the market)
- The ability to sell your methods (proof is in the pudding)
Not to take anything away from him, but without his market, I highly doubt he’d be in the position he’s in today.
His market is so good, that other marketplace owners let him implement his own system in THEIR markets for a percentage of profits.
He really does seem to have “cracked the code” with recruiting and selling models.
As someone who knew him before he blew up, I watched all of this happen from the sidelines and thought, “Damn. I want some of that.”
The question is: do I have the stomach to run a market like he does?
I tried selling models back in the day but quickly gave it up once I realized what a massive headache it was.
Between all the refunds, unsophisticated buyers, flaky girls, and back and forth communication between buyer and seller, I had had enough.
My approach was a little different – I thought I would save myself some headache by essentially having an open marketplace where sellers could list their models (through me) for a percentage of profits.
To quote The Donald, “Great idea. Doesn’t work.”
That said, now that I’ve got a little more experience in the game, I feel like taking another crack at a model marketplace may be the right move.
As you may have noticed, I naturally gravitate more to the community-centered aspects of OFM than I do the actual agency part.
Chatting, traffic, etc I find pretty dull.
Making deals, networking, and community development are much more interesting to me.
Running a model market seems right up my alley.. sort of.
I mean, the benefits seem right up my alley.
I can tell you right now, I have very little interest in reinventing the wheel when it comes to creating the processes that make a model market run like a well-oiled machine.
Still, I believe here that the juice may definitely be worth the squeeze.
I also have a few unique key elements in place when it comes to starting a model market:
- I know how to recruit VAs to do outreach
- I have SOPs available already to train VAs
- I have all the scripts necessary to recruit (and if necessary, onboard) models
- I have the existing reach to promote my market
- I have a list of 42,000 escorts that I can hit immediately
- I can scrape additional escort lists in a matter of days
- I have 15 existing IG agency accounts ready to go
There are two things that are stopping me from starting:
- Resistance to spending money
- Anticipation of headache
I don’t think it’s entirely uncommon for people to resist outlaying a cost on something that may not bring results.
I would need to figure out exactly how much I would have to invest off the bat for the market to get started.
Let’s think…
- 5 VAs at $300/month
- Messaging tool for escorts $200/month
- Scraping tool for extra leads $300 (one time)
- $50/day IG ads
So all in, we’re looking at around $3500ish for the first month.
And that’s with 5 freakin VAs, definitely not starting small either.
I’d have to sell around 5-6 models to make my money back from this little venture, give or take.
Speaking of IG ads, one of the things that stopped me from even considering picking this up again was that my FB ads account was banned.
Every time I would try to start (or buy) a new one, it would get shut down before I was ever able to launch another campaign.
That’s too bad, because over the past six months I’ve amassed a nice little collection of high-performing Instagram ads for recruiting models.
I seem to have solved this problem about a week ago when a purchased Business Manager account actually launched a campaign successfully.
It’s currently been running for a few days, so I’m optimistic that it’ll continue to run.
Now it’s just a matter of setting up campaigns that can slip under FB’s radar.
Honestly, I’m experiencing major internal resistance to pulling the trigger on this one.
It’s not even really the money per se, it’s the fact that I am nervous to take this project on IN ADDITION TO everything else that I have on my plate.
I would entertain the idea of working with a partner, but most of the people that I trust to work with on this are big time people who are also super busy.
I would need to pick a junior partner who has the time to dedicate to this. I assume it would be comparatively easy to find someone like this.
I suppose I should probably start looking, right?
So if you’re interested in running a model marketplace with me, send me a DM and let’s talk about it.
SAAS – The Ultimate Business Model?
Like I mentioned in the section about the Reddit product, I am VERY interested in offering SAAS services to the OFM community (and beyond).
Selling software is an incredible business model for a few reasons:
- Easy monthly subscription
- Harder to pirate (not like PDFs/videos/courses)
- Solves a very specific problem
- Highly targeted
- Can create info products for the backend
The more I think about it, the more I am starting to love the idea of selling software tools.
I have a bunch of ideas, but here are some of my favorite ones:
- Bumble verification bot
- TikTok “stitch” bot
- Video bulk editing tool
- Video/image watermarking tool
- Reddit crossposting tool
- Subreddit builder
These tools are all surprisingly affordable to create from high quality devs.
Software developers (with a business mindset) are an incredible resource.
I’ve never had any software tools built before – let alone sold any – so this is all new territory for me.
But I assume it would be the same as selling anything else: agitate a problem and offer the software as a solution.
For example, one thing that TikTok/IG experts know they “should” be doing is repurposing their creators’ existing content into unique videos to repost on a self-run content farm.
I can tell you that this is DEFINITELY something that I plan on doing.
I am running into one main challenge, and that is that bulk editing videos with ffmpeg is a massive chore.
My idea is to create a tool that bulk combines thirst traps and viral content into “unique” new videos.
Let’s say I have 20 thirst trap (TT) videos and 10 gaming videos (GV).
I would like to combine ALL the thirst trap videos with ALL of the gaming videos.
So it would look like this:
- TT1 x GV1
- TT1 x GV2
- TT1 x GV3, etc…
Down the line until I would have 10 UNIQUE copies of each thirst trap TikTok.
These unique copies would be posted to a separate account with unique captions and hashtags.
So a given social account would look like this:
- TT1 x GV1
- TT2 x GV2
- TT3 x GV3
Another social account would be:
- TT1 x GV2
- TT2 x GV3
- TT3 x GV4
So on and so forth, with the result that ALL 10 social pages would have unique viral + gaming content posted to each of them.
We’d start with 10 and then eventually increase to 100s of accounts.
The first challenge here is creating the video content.
Once that’s done, the second challenge would be reposting the content across all of the accounts.
I haven’t quite figured out how to do that, but worst case scenario we could go the low-tech route and just pay people to run phone farms.
That could be ANOTHER solution we provide down the road.
But for now, I think a bulk video editing tool would be sufficient.
After a quick poll in my SimpHunters TG group, I found that nearly half of all people surveyed said they would pay $100 for a tool like this.
The poll I did asked about a one-time fee, not a recurring subscription. But even with a one-time fee I’d be sure to make my money back and then some.
That said, I’d prefer to charge $20/month instead of a $100 one time fee, which I feel would have a higher conversion rate anyway.
THESE are the little projects I’d like to take on.
It really doesn’t cost that much to get them done either. But because it’s new territory for me, I am hesitating.
I need to not hesitate and just pull the trigger.
I think I should start with the TikTok tool because I feel like it would be the easiest to sell right off the bat.
I’m even in contact with a dev who said he’d do it for me.
I need to just do it.
Being The “Community Guy”
I never really thought of myself as a “community guy” before.
To me, that was always something that other people did.
I was there mingling, taking what I needed, and working on my own stuff.
Now, however, I feel like a big sense of responsibility for facilitating conversation in various communities that I’ve started.
Most noticeable here is the once-private Simp Hunters Telegram group that I recently opened up to public membership.
Less than a month ago, this group was stalled at 120 members.
We’re now at 1000+ and growing every day.
This is obviously amazing progress, mainly because it gives me an ever-increasing audience to promote my various projects to any time I want without worrying about drawing ire from other group owners.
The only thing better than having an audience is having an audience in an environment that you have 100% control over.
This is why – despite our cooperation on nearly everything else – big group owners are hesitant to promote smaller groups.
It makes perfect sense if you think about it.
Why would they want to give access to their most precious of commodities: their audience.
Any time you expose a group member to a competing source of attention, you run the risk that they will spend less time in YOUR group.
And if they’re not spending time in YOUR group, then they might miss your big announcement about that thing you’re doing.
After all, what’s the purpose of having a group if you aren’t able to notify its members about all the amazing opportunities you have available?
Aside from that, most group owners have an unspoken desire to cooperate with one another.
I’ll talk more about it in a later article, but this was the main intent behind the creation of The Federation.
As of today, The Federation (aka “the Fed”) is the largest conglomeration of OFM group owners in the industry.
The original motivation behind the creation of the Fed was for group owners to share strategies for managing our groups effectively.
We always had open communication, but it was more of a private 1 on 1 thing instead of a coordinated effort.
BTZ would message me, I’d message Razvan, he’d go back to BTZ, etc. It was all so inconvenient.
Once I formed a group around the Fed, things really started to take off.
I don’t want to get too into it now, but having so many group owners in one place can either be very good or a complete disaster – depending on how it’s run.
That’s all I’m going to say for now.
Getting back to the point, ever since opening my own personal group to the public, I’ve felt more of an obligation to be present in the chats.
When my group was private, it was pretty dead.
The reason I opened my private Telegram group up is because I realized that a big, active, and free group was 100x more valuable than a small, private, and inactive one.
The key word there being “active.”
However, I fully believe that it is MY responsibility to make sure the group is active.
I am not BTZ with the most popular watercooler in town. I have to do what I can to make sure the group is appealing for people to chat in.
Speaking from personal experience, the main way I assign value to a group is how long it takes me to get my questions answered.
If I ask a question and get no responses, then I’m less likely to visit that group.
But if I know that my question will get answered IMMEDIATELY in a given group, then I will make sure that group is the first place I check for answers.
Yes, there are other reasons for visiting a group. But this is the primary one for most people (I believe).
Anyway, the group is immeasurably valuable but consumes a lot of my time.
I should probably recruit a mod at this point so I don’t have to spend so much time in there monitoring what goes on.
You STILL Haven’t Joined The SimpHunter OFM Forum?
I recently launched the SimpHunter OFM Forum with great fanfare.
And while I can’t predict the future, I would be willing to bet money that this forum will grow to be incredibly popular as OFM develops.
But much like the Telegram group, the forum requires a lot of work.
If I thought that managing a group was a lot of work, the forum is much more.
In the group, I just need to check it once in a while to make sure people aren’t killing each other.
The forum has dozens of posts on a daily basis that require a response.
Not only that, but I also feel a personal responsibility to make sure that there are enough topics to discuss on the forum at any given time.
I can tell you this: I’m not going to just wait around and HOPE that other people start engaging on there.
I’m going to start the damn conversations myself if I have to.
I fully believe that any given organization will become the embodiment of whoever is the #1 person in charge.
- If you are a toxic asshole, then your group will be full of toxic assholes.
- If you are an honest dealer, then your group will be full of honest dealers.
Regardless of if you’re running a business, a Telegram group, or something else – if you are in charge then it is up to YOU to set a personal example for the type of behavior you want to see.
I want people to engage with active threads, start their own, and make the place nice and lively.
How can I expect people to do that if I’m not doing it myself?
Furthermore, starting all these threads is an incredible data mining opportunity just SITTING there. Same with the Telegram groups.
One of the best things I ever started doing was pinning polls in my Telegram group.
Instead of asking a simple question and hoping for a response from someone who knows what they’re talking about, I can poll my entire group and get 50-100 responses in under an hour.
When you ask a question in a group, your BEST hope is that someone with experience answers it sufficiently instead of ignoring you.
If you’re lucky, it may spin off into a full blown conversation between multiple members where you learn more.
But for the majority of questions asked in groups, all too often what ends up happening is one of the following:
- Nobody answers
- Someone gives a one word answer
- Someone gives a joke answer
- Someone gives a good answer, but lacking details
It’s EXTREMELY unlikely that you’ll get a full blown answer that’s over 20 words (unless Neksi is feeling talkative).
When you post a poll, however, you are providing an easy way for everyone to give their answer.
Plus, people’s general curiousity is the driving force behind causing them to answer the poll in the first place.
You ANSWER that poll about how many dating app profiles you run concurrently because YOU want to know what everyone else is doing.
The benefit for me, the group owner and poll master, is that I immediately get a crowdsourced answer to my question without having to nag everyone individually to participate in my little survey.
The forum that I just started has this feature as well, with two important twists:
- Polls stay up as long as the thread stays up, ensuring greater participation
- People are encouraged to leave detailed replies to the thread
This comparatively advanced data mining process helps find best practices in the industry WITHOUT revealing too much of “the sauce” as to render the strategy inoperable.
The challenge, of course, is getting people to participate.
When I launched the forum, I got off to a great start with a limited first round of memberships. The initial 100 spots “sold out” in under an hour.
I had the presence of mind to offer a slew of bonuses for the first round of memberships, the most appealing of which was surprisingly the “Founding Member” badge.
I tried replicating this with the second round, but was only rewarded with 100 more members. This time in 24 hours.
The difference? No Founding Member badge.
Once I had worked out most of the bugs and gotten used to the forum, I decided to open it up for full membership to everyone.
No bonuses were awarded during this round. And as a result, sign ups dropped.
I based my initial expectations of popularity off of the first round of memberships, but apparently I was mistaken.
If nothing else, it was a learning experience: people will RUSH to sign up for something if they believe they will get recognition and clout.
If I could turn back the clock, what I’d do is leave the initial round of memberships open for 24 hours and let EVERYONE sign up as a Founding Member.
I suppose by making it exclusive and limiting it to only 100, I increased the urgency.
But the problem there is that apparently there were a lot of people who primarily joined BECAUSE they wanted that Founding Member badge.
Now I know for next time.
Launch statistics aside, I am very happy with the direction of the forum so far.
I probably won’t hit my goal of 2000 members in a few weeks, but I believe with proper nurturing, the forum will become a go-to source for information in the future.
My challenge now is growing it beyond the first few rounds of members.
I feel like there are 2 main ways to do this:
- Incentivize people for joining
- Promote interesting threads in the TG groups that I control
I’ll have to think about what to do here.
The Jewel In My Crown
All of these “community” side projects and I saved my baby for last.
The driver behind it all: the SimpHunter blog.
My friend Sean Suarez – model market pioneer and previous owner of Blushz Marketplace – DMed me the other day, apparently after finding my blog for the first time.
He asked me point blank, “Why do you write articles?”
I replied without hesitation: “Because it’s fun.”
Obviously, he meant what benefit do I derive from writing them.
More specifically, how do they put money in my pocket?
To be honest, they don’t really.
I just have a sick love of writing.
After posting my first TG ad promoting my forum, I got a message from a notable TG celebrity complimenting me on my copywriting.
One thing lead to another and before you know it, I had been offered the opportunity to do some copywriting for a new info product he had coming out.
Not only am I a huge fan of this notable individual, but I would love to start doing paid copywriting work. So it seemed like a great opportunity to me.
That – plus the long term potential of working with this person – motivated me to bring my A game.
I told them I’d whip up a proposal and send it over in a day or two.
Now ask yourself: what would a normal person do?
They’d find some boilerplate project proposal from Google Docs, make a quick one pager, and send it over.
I’ve been called a lot of things, but NORMAL is rarely one of them.
So what did I do?
I sat down and wrote this person a proposal with the 3 main points:
- Deliverables for this project (what I’d do for them)
- Payment (what I’d want in return)
- 10 Reasons why they should say yes
4000 words later, I was the proud creator of the most well-written (and convincing) proposal ever produced by non ChatGPT hands.
It’s so good, I wish I could post it here. But my agreement with this person is confidential.
Maybe in a few years when we’re all famous I’ll release it. For now you’ll just have to take my word for it.
Anyway, the point is that I am borderline OBSESSED with writing.
I have “found my voice” as the writers say.
Luckily, I have an audience that is hungry for more.
And best of all, every article I publish will live for eternity on the web, bringing me that delicious SEO traffic until Google implodes or the internet dies.
Not only that, but as I develop more revenue-generating backend services, these articles will each individually generate more income for me.
I am essentially being financially compensated to write more and more.
Let’s be honest – it probably won’t make me a millionaire any time soon.
But not only do I enjoy the process, but the end result of my efforts is a piece of work that I am unironically proud of when I hit that publish button.
More importantly – this work will indirectly funnel customers to me indefinitely until the end of time.
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: a major reason WHY I spend so much time on these articles is because I will be promoting them in Telegram groups for everyone to read.
Just like anyone else, I want people to say nice things about my work.
Call me a grifter, call me an idiot, call me whatever you want.
But one thing you can’t call me is a boring writer.
Any of you who are thinking of creating content for this or any other community, I highly encourage you to adopt the same line of thinking.
I don’t know about you, but many times I’ve created content in the past and not actively promoted it because I was scared what people would think.
When I know that I’m going to be blasting thousands of people with the announcement of its existence, I am VERY motivated to make sure I do a good job.
Self-promotion peptalk aside, the more advanced my operation becomes, the bigger role this blog will play.
The blog is essentially the mouthpiece for my brand and what I’m doing.
People say blogging is dead, forums are dead, everything that requires any effort to mentally process is dead.
And while writing blogs won’t get me recognized on the streets of LA like Michael Sartain, these unbearably long articles are an incredibly opportunity for me to dig my hooks deep into you, the reader, and pull you into ever-increasing alignment with my vision.
When I was just writing about the struggles of my agency, this blog was just entertaining. Informative, even.
Now that I have the forum, the Federation, services on offer, a massive Telegram group, and growing influence with other community bigshots, the blog’s power becomes magnified as well.
On the one hand, it’s tempting to let it lapse with the excuse of not having time.
And while I wouldn’t go as far as to say – like I used to – that writing articles is the best use of my time, it certainly pays dividends down the line.
I can’t count how many cold contacts I get from people telling me they loved my blog and either want to buy something from me or offer me a chunk of whatever project they’re working on.
Sure, I may not get blown up as often as some people, but it’s pretty good for a guy who has no idea what he’s doing.
Then again, I could just be delusional and these articles could be a massive waste of time.
But to be perfectly honest, I really don’t think so.
I think that over the next few years, people will find this blog and read through ALL of it to trace the origins of this industry.
I fully believe that many of the people mentioned in here will continue to be fixtures in the business and continue along their trajectory of success.
But what do I know?
Anyway, the point is that I need to keep the articles flowing.
Fortunately, I have enough cool stuff on my plate that I might actually have something interesting to write about.
In a perfect world, I’d live in a big house full of other OFM guys and we’d all do OFM sh*t all day every day.
I’d be able to write about it, make TikToks (“behind the scenes at a modeling agency”), and live a watered down version of Andrew Tate’s life circa 2017.
Wrapping it up
I’ve been meaning to write this article for a while as a way to clarify my thoughts.
To tell you the truth, I’m still not 100% sure on what I should be doing. This is all new to me.
But writing this definitely has helped me clarify my thoughts.
If you want to keep up with daily updates on my journey, then I highly recommend you check out this thread on the SimpHunter OFM forums.
And while I’d love the extra ego boost of another reader, what you REALLY should be doing is starting your own Journey thread.
It doesn’t matter where you are in your progress, how much you have to learn, or how much of a brokie you are.
Keeping a daily diary of your progress in ANYTHING will help you make faster progress – ESPECIALLY if you know that diary is going to be read by other people.
Plus, who knows – maybe you’ll be able to spin it into a long term audience like I have and turn it into a 5-figure/month side hustle.
You have my support, my dudes!
-YP